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    It is not the case that The Stoic unity thesis conflates the finished product of complete virtue with the process of moral development, rendering moral progress conceptually unintelligible.

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    • 1.Stoics distinguish between the ideal sage and the 'proficient' (prokoptōn) as distinct developmental stages with real meaning.
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    • 2.Progress can be intelligible as asymptotic approach toward a unified ideal without requiring the ideal to be partially instantiable.
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    • 3.Unity of virtue describes the *structure* of complete virtue, not the necessity that all intermediate steps be incoherent.
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    • 1.The Stoic sage possesses all virtues simultaneously and perfectly; partial virtue is conceptually impossible in their system.
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    • 2.If virtue is unified and indivisible, intermediate stages of development cannot constitute genuine moral progress toward it.
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    • 3.The theory leaves no room for explaining how someone transitions from vice to virtue without already possessing virtue.
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