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    The supporting argument assumes orthodoxy requires affirm... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Person-collapse should be rejected by trinitarians.

    The supporting argument assumes orthodoxy requires affirming three hypostases as numerically distinct, but this begs the question against sophisticated modal monarchianism.

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    • 1.Modal monarchianism interprets Father, Son, Spirit as successive modes of divine activity, not permanent ontological distinctions.
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    • 2.Assuming numerical distinctness as mandatory orthodoxy excludes legitimate interpretations that preserve monotheism differently.
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    • 3.The claim correctly identifies that Nicene orthodoxy itself required philosophical scaffolding that begs questions against alternatives.
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    • 1.Council of Nicaea explicitly condemned modalism, making modal monarchianism heretical rather than 'sophisticated' alternative theology.
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    • 2.Numerical distinctness of hypostases addresses the genuine logical problem that pure modalism cannot explain simultaneous trinitarian action.
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    • 3.Calling the argument question-begging requires showing an independent reason to accept modal monarchianism's theological coherence first.
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