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    Challenges→God is temporal after creation, even if God was timeless before creation.

    The supporting argument illicitly assumes that relational co-presence with temporal entities must itself be temporally located, which begs the question against divine timelessness.

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    Divine timelessness(the philosophical position being defended against)
    The theological idea that God exists outside of time entirely—not at any particular moment, but beyond past, present, and future.
    Relational co-presence(describes how entities might interact or be connected)
    The idea that two things exist in a relationship or connection with each other at the same time or in the same way.
    Temporal entities(contrasted with things that exist outside of time)
    Things that exist in time—that have a past, present, and future, or that change over time.
    Temporally located(the argument assumes this about relationships with time-bound things)
    Positioned or situated at a specific point in time, like how an event happens at a particular moment.
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    A circular argument in which warrant for the premises already presupposes the truth of the conclusion

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