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    It is not the case that The Trinity must be a person.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Praiseworthy collectives (e.g., nations, institutions) can bear moral credit without constituting a single unified person.
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    • 2.The Trinity's praiseworthiness can be distributed across three persons jointly, without requiring a fourth, collective person.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Apophatic theologians from Pseudo-Dionysius to Maimonides argue that worship targets transcendent reality that exceeds all personal categories.
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    • 2.If worship can be fittingly directed at what surpasses human conceptual frameworks, the inference from 'worthy of worship' to 'must be a person' fails.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Moral responsibility implies personhood (of some kind).
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    • 2.The Trinity must be praiseworthy, e.g. for having achieved salvation for humankind or just for having the character of a loving community.
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    • 3.Since the Trinity must be praiseworthy, the Trinity bears moral responsibility, which implies personhood.
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.It is widely agreed by Christians that the Trinity should be worshiped.
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    • 2.A non-person can't be a fitting recipient of worship.
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