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    The Trinity must be a person. — Carmelics
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    The Trinity must be a person.

    Trinity
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    Reasons For

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    • 1.Moral responsibility implies personhood (of some kind).
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    • 2.The Trinity must be praiseworthy, e.g. for having achieved salvation for humankind or just for having the character of a loving community.
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    • 3.Since the Trinity must be praiseworthy, the Trinity bears moral responsibility, which implies personhood.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.It is widely agreed by Christians that the Trinity should be worshiped.
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    • 2.A non-person can't be a fitting recipient of worship.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Praiseworthy collectives (e.g., nations, institutions) can bear moral credit without constituting a single unified person.
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    • 2.The Trinity's praiseworthiness can be distributed across three persons jointly, without requiring a fourth, collective person.
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    • 1.Apophatic theologians from Pseudo-Dionysius to Maimonides argue that worship targets transcendent reality that exceeds all personal categories.
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    • 2.If worship can be fittingly directed at what surpasses human conceptual frameworks, the inference from 'worthy of worship' to 'must be a person' fails.
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    McIntosh argues that since moral responsibility implies personhood (of some kind), and it is clear that the Trinity must be praiseworthy, e.g. “for having achieved salvation for humankind” or “just for having the character of a loving community”, then the Trinity must himself be a person. And it is widely agreed by Christians that the Trinity should be worshiped, but a non-person can’t be a fitting recipient of worship (173).
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    Validity: The extracted argument faithfully represents the reasoning in the source passage: praiseworthiness entails moral responsibility, which entails personhood, therefore the Trinity must be a person.

    Confidence: Clear argument explicitly attributed to McIntosh in the text.

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