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    The via negativa tradition shows trained theological reas... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Understanding why mystical paradoxes affirm and then deny features requires having a mystical experience

    The via negativa tradition shows trained theological reasoning, not experiential states, historically produced the affirmation-then-denial structure.

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    • 1.Via negativa texts exhibit systematic logical progression independent of reported mystical experiences by their authors.
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    • 2.Pseudo-Dionysius and Aquinas deployed negation through formal theological education, not spontaneous experiential insight.
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    • 3.The method's structure mirrors scholastic debate patterns, suggesting intellectual tradition rather than phenomenological origin.
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    • 1.Via negativa practitioners consistently report experiential motivation; dismissing this as post-hoc rationalization requires special pleading.
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    • 2.Trained reasoning and experiential states need not be mutually exclusive—contemplatives develop sophisticated theology *from* practice.
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    • 3.The claim conflates historical documentation methods with actual psychological origins; absence of experience-evidence ≠ absence of experience.
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