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    Supports→The Yogācāra idealist thesis is logically untenable.

    The Yogācāra ālayavijñāna posited to account for causal continuity between mental streams is functionally indistinguishable from a Pudgalavādin substantial self, which Yogācārins themselves reject as ontologically incoherent.

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    • 1.Both ālayavijñāna and pudgala function as substrates persisting across rebirth to explain karmic continuity without a permanent soul.
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    • 2.Yogācāra denies ālayavijñāna has intrinsic essence, yet it grounds identity conditions in ways functionally equivalent to substantial selfhood.
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    • 3.If two entities serve identical causal roles in a system, rejecting one while accepting the other requires principled distinction beyond function.
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    • 1.Ālayavijñāna is explicitly a consciousness (vijñāna), not a substance; pudgala is a non-conscious substantial entity—different ontological categories.
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    • 2.Yogācāra treats ālayavijñāna as conventional designation without intrinsic nature, while rejecting pudgala as positing independent ontological reality.
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    • 3.Functional equivalence in explaining causal continuity doesn't entail equivalence in metaphysical status if one is designated and one is reified.
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    Key Terms

    Causal continuity(as what determines whether organisms belong to the same biological group)
    An unbroken chain of cause-and-effect connections linking one thing to another—like how parents cause their offspring to exist.
    Ontologically incoherent(as applied to the idea of creation from nothing)
    Logically impossible or contradictory in terms of how things actually exist and are structured.
    Pudgalavādin(as a Buddhist philosophical school)
    An ancient Buddhist school that believed in a permanent, unchanging self or person (pudgala) as the basis of personal identity, unlike other Buddhist groups.
    Yogācāra(Buddhist philosophy debate with realism)
    A Buddhist philosophical school that argues against the reality of external objects, here described as mounting defensive arguments against realist challenges
    mental streams(as used in Buddhist philosophy)
    The continuous flow of thoughts, experiences, and consciousness that make up a person's mental life from moment to moment.
    substantial self(The conception of selfhood that Nāgārjuna and the Mādhyamika school argue against)
    A unified, enduring entity distinct from the body and all parts of mental life that serves as the subject underlying all experiences and unifies cognitive life
    ālayavijñāna(Yogācāra Buddhist metaphysics)
    The storehouse consciousness that contains vāsanās in their latent state before they arise to the conscious level.

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