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    There can be no mode common to mind and body except the m... — Carmelics
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    There can be no mode common to mind and body except the mutual acting of each upon the other.

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    • 1.The body cannot think, so thought is not a mode shared with matter.
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    • 2.The mind cannot have dimension, so extension is not a mode shared with mind.
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    • 3.The only property that follows from the union of mind and body — and cannot proceed from either alone — is their mutual acting upon each other.
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    • 1.Spinoza demonstrates that thought and extension are attributes of a single substance, making mind-body interaction a pseudo-problem rather than a genuine mode.
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    • 2.If mind and body are modes of one substance, their apparent 'mutual acting' reduces to parallel expressions of the same underlying reality, not a distinct relational mode.
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    • 1.Malebranche argues that finite substances lack genuine causal power, so what appears as mind-body interaction is in fact God's occasionalist mediation, not a mode intrinsic to their union.
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    • 2.If causal efficacy belongs to God alone, then 'mutual acting' cannot constitute a genuine mode of the mind-body union, since neither substance is its true causal source.
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    Le Grand described the mind-body union in terms directly borrowed from Descartes. However, Le Grand attempted to explicate further than did Descartes the nature of the mind-body union. According to Le Grand, there are three kinds of union, each possessing its own principle which effects that union: the first is that of two minds whose principle of union is love; the second is that of two physical bodies whose principle of union is local presence; and the third is that of the mind and body whose
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