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There cannot be a real standard of beauty which an object... — Carmelics

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There cannot be a real standard of beauty which an object might or might not satisfy.

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1.In Croce's philosophy, the aesthetic stands alone.
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2.In having an intuition, one has succeeded entirely insofar as aesthetic value is concerned.
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1.Wölfflin demonstrated that art-historical periods exhibit stable, intersubjectively identifiable formal principles that reliably differentiate aesthetic achievement from failure.
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2.The existence of expert convergence in aesthetic evaluation across cultures and centuries constitutes empirical evidence for operative standards of beauty.
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3.If real standards were impossible, the phenomenon of trained aesthetic discrimination producing cross-cultural agreement would be systematically inexplicable.
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1.Kant's Critique of Judgment establishes that aesthetic judgments carry a demand for universal assent, distinguishing them from mere private pleasure.
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2.If aesthetic judgments claim universal validity, then standards of beauty are presupposed rather than excluded by the very grammar of aesthetic experience.
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In Croce’s overall philosophy, the aesthetic stands alone: in having an intuition, one has succeeded entirely insofar as aesthetic value is concerned. Therefore there cannot be a real question of a ‘standard’ of beauty which an object might or might not satisfy. Thus Croce says:

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