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    It is not the case that There exists a being from which the world received its existence.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.The concept of 'prior existence' presupposes time, yet time itself may be a feature of the world rather than a precondition for it.
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    • 2.If time originates with the world, there is no coherent temporal 'before' in which a creator could exist and act causally.
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    • 3.Therefore, the causal premise requires a non-temporal sense of priority that has never been adequately specified or defended.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Spinoza demonstrated that a single infinite substance (Deus sive Natura) can be both the immanent cause and the totality of existence without ontological remainder.
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    • 2.If the world is a necessary mode of an infinite self-caused substance, it does not 'receive' existence from an external being but expresses necessary existence internally.
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    • 3.The supporting argument's P2 illicitly assumes a transitive, external relation of causation where an immanent, necessary relation may suffice.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.The world is created.
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    • 2.A created thing must receive its being from some other being that existed prior to it.
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