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    There is a clear difference in status between body and mi... — Carmelics
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    There is a clear difference in status between body and mind or soul.

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    • 1.Volition (mind/soul) is unimpeded and fully within one's control.
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    • 2.The body is not unimpeded and does not fully belong to the person.
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    • 3.Things that differ fundamentally in their degree of ownership and control differ in status.
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    • 1.Neuroscientific evidence establishes that volition and rational deliberation are causally dependent on specific physical brain states.
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    • 2.If what we call 'mind' or 'soul' is realized in and constrained by neural processes, it cannot be categorically free from bodily impediment.
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    • 3.A difference in degree of control does not establish a difference in ontological status if both faculties share the same physical substrate.
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    • 1.Spinoza's dual-aspect monism holds that mind and body are two attributes of a single substance, not two distinct kinds of thing.
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    • 2.If mind and body are expressions of one underlying reality, the Stoic claim that volition is wholly unimpeded by the body conflates a pragmatic distinction with a metaphysical one.
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    • 3.Epictetus's argument from control establishes a normative hierarchy of attention, not a genuine difference in the ontological or essential status of mind over body.
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    Zeus’s power is limited in that he cannot do what it is logically impossible to do. He could not cause a person to be born before his parents (1.12.28–29), and he could not have made volition execute any choices but its own (1.1.23, 1.17.27). For the same kind of reason, he could not, for all his benevolence, cause a person’s body to be unimpeded in the way volition is unimpeded (4.1.100). Our bodies do not in fact belong to us, since we cannot always decide what will happen to them. There is th
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    Things that differ fundamentally in their degree of ownership and control differ...
    Volition (mind/soul) is unimpeded and fully within one's control.
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