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    There is a moral objection to indulging one's own desires... — Carmelics
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    There is a moral objection to indulging one's own desires at another person's expense, even if the timeless harmony never becomes manifest in time.

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    • 1.All individuals are aspects of the Absolute, a timeless super-self.
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    • 2.Harming another person is harming a larger whole of which both oneself and the other person are parts.
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    • 3.The same objection that applies to indulging one passion at the expense of other inconsistent passions within oneself applies to indulging one's desires at another person's expense.
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    • 1.The identity of individuals with the Absolute is not established by argument but assumed, making the moral objection circular.
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    • 2.Bradley's and Bosanquet's absolute idealism was decisively criticized by Russell and Moore for conflating numerical and qualitative identity.
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    • 3.Without a defensible metaphysics of the Absolute, the alleged harm to a 'larger whole' has no ontological ground to generate moral obligations.
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    • 1.Schopenhauer argues that compassion, not metaphysical unity, grounds the moral prohibition against harming others at one's own expense.
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    • 2.If the moral objection holds independently of any timeless harmony ever becoming manifest, the Absolutist metaphysics is doing no genuine moral work.
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    • 3.A Humean sentimentalist can account for the same moral prohibition through sympathy without invoking an unverifiable supra-individual self.
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    At first Russell was an adherent of McTaggart. This afforded him a neat solution to Sidgwick’s problem. The happy day when the harmony becomes explicit can be promoted or retarded by human action. If I benefit myself at your expense not only am I doing down a self with whom I am, in Reality, intimately linked—I am putting off the day when the harmony that Really Is becomes apparent. And since this harmony will be supremely pleasurable I am harming myself into the bargain. Hence morality and self
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    The identity of individuals with the Absolute is not established by argument but...
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