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    Therefore, civil authority is bounded by prior natural ri... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The transition from the state of nature to the civil state requires the universal renunciation of certain natural rights and the investment of those prerogatives in a central authority.

    Therefore, civil authority is bounded by prior natural rights rather than constituted by their universal renunciation.

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    • 1.Individuals possess inherent capacities for self-determination prior to any government's existence or recognition.
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    • 2.If authority derives from surrendering all rights, governments could justifiably eliminate any liberty without logical constraint.
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    • 3.Historical rights claims (conscience, property, speech) appeal to standards external to government, suggesting pre-political foundations.
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    • 1.Natural rights are metaphysically controversial; legal rights demonstrably depend on institutional recognition and enforcement.
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    • 2.Without authority to establish and protect rights, pre-political individuals face chaos; authority constitutes the framework enabling rights.
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    • 3.Claiming 'natural rights limit authority' assumes the very conclusion—what makes a right 'natural' rather than culturally constructed?
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