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    Thinking must be real and must have being — Carmelics
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    • 1.Knowledge can only be realized if it establishes a relation between real items
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    • 2.Real items must be structurally identical
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    • 3.Realized knowledge is a discursive/conceptual relation that can only be established by thinking
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    • 1.Eliminative materialists like Churchland argue that 'thinking' as a folk-psychological category may not correspond to any real natural kind.
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    • 2.If 'thinking' fails to carve nature at its joints, the inference from knowledge to the reality of thinking inherits a conceptually defective term.
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    • 3.A claim cannot establish the being of an entity whose very description may be a theoretical fiction awaiting replacement by neuroscience.
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    • 1.Hume's bundle theory holds that what we call 'thinking' is a succession of discrete impressions and ideas with no unified substantial reality underlying them.
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    • 2.If thinking is merely a convenient label for a sequence of fleeting perceptions, it possesses no persistent being beyond those momentary constituents.
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    • 3.The supporting argument's premise that realized knowledge requires a structurally identical relatum presupposes a robust, enduring thinker that Humean skepticism explicitly denies.
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    A claim cannot establish the being of an entity whose very description may be a ...Eliminative materialists like Churchland argue that 'thinking' as a folk-psychol...Hume's bundle theory holds that what we call 'thinking' is a succession of discr...If 'thinking' fails to carve nature at its joints, the inference from knowledge ...
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    If there is knowledge, then thinking must be realIf thinking is merely a convenient label for a sequence of fleeting perceptions,...Knowledge can only be realized if it establishes a relation between real items

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    Thinking is real and has being87%The positing activity of the I must itself be real and have being.81%Everything that is real is a fact76%Having reality or being requires the Concept to undergo realization75%

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    It is by providing an interpretation to the unity/identity structure that Hegel arrives at a defense of idealism in a non-oppositional sense. Put somewhat distant from his terminology but relying heavily on his own preliminary remarks on the question “With What must the Beginning of Science be made?” in the Science of Logic, his line of thought can be sketched roughly thus: the Phenomenology has demonstrated that knowledge can only be realized if it establishes a relation between real items. The
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    Real items must be structurally identical
    Realized knowledge is a discursive/conceptual relation that can only be establis...
    The supporting argument's premise that realized knowledge requires a structurall...
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