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    Challenges→Reason can never oppose passion in the direction of the will

    This indirect governance constitutes reason opposing passion in the direction of the will, even if mediated through belief revision.

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    • 1.Belief revision is a rational process that can alter motivational landscapes without requiring direct willpower.
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    • 2.Reason operates through cognitive mediation: changing what we believe changes what we desire and pursue.
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    • 3.Indirect governance explains why logical argument can overcome passion—it restructures the premises driving choice.
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    • 1.Belief revision itself requires prior motivational commitment; reason cannot initiate change without passion's involvement.
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    • 2.The claim conflates reason influencing passion with reason truly opposing it—mediation suggests interdependence, not opposition.
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    • 3.Empirical evidence shows passionate conviction often resists belief revision regardless of logical counter-evidence presented.
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