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    Those in Hell will never be delivered — Carmelics
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    Those in Hell will never be delivered

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    • 1.It is not that the debt is finite
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    • 2.If it is not that the debt is finite, then it is not that the debt can be paid
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    • 1.Origen and Gregory of Nyssa argued that divine punishment is medicinal and corrective, not retributive and terminal.
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    • 2.If punishment is corrective in purpose, then its logical terminus is the correction of the soul, not endless continuation beyond it.
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    • 3.A punishment without a restorative terminus violates the teleological structure of justice as articulated in Platonic and patristic ethics.
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    • 1.Moral debt is proportional to the finite dignity of the offended party, not the infinite nature of God as such (Aquinas, ScG III).
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    • 2.If moral debt is finite in magnitude, then satisfaction can in principle be rendered, making perpetual punishment disproportionate.
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