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    To arrive at a position of religious faith, the individua... — Carmelics
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    To arrive at a position of religious faith, the individual must first embrace the ethical.

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    • 1.Religious faith may entail a teleological suspension of the ethical.
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    • 2.One cannot suspend or transcend the ethical without first having embraced it.
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    • 1.Kierkegaard's Abraham in Fear and Trembling achieves faith precisely by a movement that bypasses rather than fulfills ethical demands.
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    • 2.If faith requires suspending the ethical, then the ethical stage is not a necessary precondition but an obstacle faith must overcome.
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    • 3.A logically necessary precondition cannot simultaneously be the primary obstacle to the very thing it supposedly enables.
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    • 1.Neoplatonic and mystical traditions (e.g., Plotinus, Meister Eckhart) describe direct ascent to the divine that bypasses conventional moral scaffolding.
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    • 2.If immediate religious experience can precede systematic ethical formation, then the ethical stage is contingent, not logically prior, to faith.
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    But in order to arrive at a position of religious faith, which might entail a “teleological suspension of the ethical”, the individual must first embrace the ethical (in the first sense). In order to raise oneself beyond the merely aesthetic life, which is a life of drifting in imagination, possibility and sensation, one needs to make a commitment. That is, the aesthete needs to choose the ethical, which entails a commitment to communication and decision procedures.
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