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    Virtue alone is not sufficient for eudaimonia; external g... — Carmelics
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    Virtue alone is not sufficient for eudaimonia; external goods are also required.

    Virtue Ethics
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    • 1.Virtue is necessary for eudaimonia.
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    • 2.External goods, which are a matter of luck, are required for eudaimonia in addition to virtue.
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    • 1.The Stoics argued that virtue is both necessary and sufficient for eudaimonia, making external goods merely 'preferred indifferents' (proēgmena adiaphora).
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    • 2.If eudaimonia depends on luck-governed externals, then the virtuous person's flourishing is hostage to fortune, undermining the rational self-sufficiency that eudaimonia requires.
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    • 3.Zeno and Chrysippus held that a virtuous sage flourishes fully even under torture, showing virtue alone constitutes the complete good.
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    • 1.Kant's moral philosophy identifies the highest good with a will governed by duty, not outcomes contingent on fortune or circumstance.
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    • 2.Tying eudaimonia to external goods conflates moral worth—which depends solely on rational agency—with empirical conditions beyond the agent's control.
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    • 3.A conception of flourishing vulnerable to brute luck cannot serve as a universal normative standard, since agents cannot be obligated toward what lies outside their power.
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    Virtue alone, without external goods, is enough to secure eudaimonia.89%Virtue is necessary for eudaimonia.88%Virtue is both necessary and sufficient for eudaimonia.88%External goods, which are a matter of luck, are required for eudaimoni...84%

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    But although all standard versions of virtue ethics insist on that conceptual link between virtue and eudaimonia, further links are matters of dispute and generate different versions. For Aristotle, virtue is necessary but not sufficient—what is also needed are external goods which are a matter of luck. For Plato and the Stoics, virtue is both necessary and sufficient for eudaimonia (Annas 1993).
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