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    It is not the case that We cannot know what deity will be like when deity emerges.

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    • 1.Alexander's hierarchy entails that lower levels can possess structural or formal knowledge about higher levels without possessing their intrinsic qualities.
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    • 2.Formal knowledge of deity's relational properties and necessary conditions is sufficient to yield substantive predictive content about emergent deity.
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    • 3.Therefore, the epistemic barrier Alexander posits blocks acquaintance-knowledge but not propositional knowledge of deity's character.
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    • 1.Hegel's dialectical logic demonstrates that reason can comprehend its own supersession by tracing the immanent contradictions that drive development toward higher stages.
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    • 2.If deity emerges from mind through determinate logical or natural necessity, then mind can know the structure of that necessity even without fully instantiating the higher level.
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    • 3.Kant's regulative use of ideas shows that cognition can orient itself toward conditions that transcend current experience without collapsing into mere ignorance.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.In Alexander's hierarchy, things can think only about things below themselves in the complexity hierarchy.
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    • 2.Deity is above mind in the hierarchy.
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    • 3.Humans exist at the mind level and so cannot think about what is above mind.
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