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    It is not the case that We may take pleasure in the natural existence of beauty beyond our basic aesthetic pleasure, because natural beauty serves as evidence that nature is hospitable to human objectives.

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    • 1.Natural beauty frequently arises from processes indifferent or hostile to human life, such as storms, predation, and decay.
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    • 2.Evidence that nature produces beauty through inhospitable processes undermines the inference that beauty signals nature's amenability to human objectives.
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    • 3.Darwin's account of natural selection shows beauty emerges from blind competition, not from any alignment with human cognitive or moral ends.
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    • 1.Schopenhauer argues aesthetic contemplation of nature requires suspending the will and its interests, not confirming them.
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    • 2.If natural beauty genuinely served as evidence for practical reason's hopes, aesthetic experience would reinforce self-interest rather than transcend it.
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    • 3.A pleasure grounded in self-referential confirmation of human objectives collapses the disinterestedness that Kant himself takes to be constitutive of genuine aesthetic response.
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    • 1.Practical reason has an interest in nature being hospitable to its objectives.
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    • 2.We take pleasure in any evidence that nature is amenable to our objectives, even non-moral ones.
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    • 3.The natural existence of beauty is evidence that nature is amenable to human objectives, because the experience of beauty fulfills our most basic cognitive objective in an unexpected way.
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