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    It is not the case that What persons owe to others must be determined before any question of self-ownership of bodies or resources can arise.

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    • 1.Obligations to others are prior to property rights, including rights over oneself.
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    • 2.Self-ownership claims presuppose a social context that must first be normatively settled.
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    • 1.Rawls's veil of ignorance demonstrates that principles of justice must be chosen before any particular distribution of natural assets is assumed legitimate.
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    • 2.Self-ownership claims that precede social agreement smuggle in contingent natural advantages as if they were morally foundational entitlements.
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    • 3.Therefore, the normative baseline from which ownership claims derive must be established through prior principles of fairness, not assumed from bodily possession.
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    • 1.Hegel's Phenomenology shows that personhood itself is constituted through mutual recognition, not through pre-social self-possession.
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    • 2.If persons only become rights-bearing agents through intersubjective recognition, then the obligations structuring that recognition are logically prior to any ownership claim.
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