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    What we hear when experiencing the Doppler effect is a vi... — Carmelics
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    What we hear when experiencing the Doppler effect is a vibration process in a sounding object, not sound waves in the medium

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    • 1.The movement of the sounding object causes, among other things, the Doppler effect
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    • 2.The Doppler effect can be described as a perspectival shortening of the vibration process in the sounding object
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    • 3.Hearing the Doppler effect does not require hearing anything different from the vibration process in the sounding object
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    • 1.The Doppler effect is a relational property of wave propagation in a medium, not an intrinsic property of the vibrating object itself.
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    • 2.Perceiving a relational property constituted by medium, source, and observer geometry cannot be reduced to perceiving one relatum of that relation.
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    • 3.Therefore, hearing the Doppler shift is hearing a wave-medium phenomenon, not the vibration process alone.
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    • 1.On Helmholtz's and later psychoacoustic accounts, pitch perception is determined by the frequency of pressure waves arriving at the ear, not source vibration frequency.
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    • 2.In the Doppler effect, the arriving wave frequency diverges from the source vibration frequency, and it is the arriving frequency that determines what the listener hears.
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    • 3.What is heard is therefore constituted by properties of the sound wave at the point of reception, undermining the claim that perception tracks only the sounding object's vibration.
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    The second objection concerns typical acoustical effects, like the Doppler effect, which are perfectly accounted for by appealing to (medial) sound waves. The Doppler effect is a shift in frequency of the sound heard by an observer who moves relative to the sound source. As waves in the direction of movement are compressed, and waves in the opposite direction are expanded, the frequency drops dramatically when the hearer and the source go past each other. Such explanations of the Doppler effect
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