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    Challenges→Authority in sacred matters belongs wholly to the sovereign powers

    Where two distinct normative orders each claim supreme jurisdiction over the same domain, neither can wholly absorb the other without logical circularity.

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    • 1.Absorption requires one order to justify its supremacy using criteria from itself, making the argument circular rather than compelling.
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    • 2.Two genuinely distinct normative systems operate by different foundational rules; one cannot translate to the other without losing logical force.
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    • 3.Historical examples (canon law vs. civil law, religious vs. secular ethics) show overlapping domains where neither achieved total absorption.
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    • 1.Practical hierarchy often emerges through power or coordination mechanisms that bypass logical absorption entirely (e.g., treaty, authority).
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    • 2.The claim conflates logical absorption with actual institutional supremacy; orders can coexist hierarchically without one logically absorbing the other.
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    • 3.One order can acknowledge another's authority within defined domains, creating stable precedence without circularity or mutual absorption.
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