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    Zeus cannot cause a person to be born before that person's parents.

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    • 1.Zeus's power is limited to what is logically possible.
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    • 2.Causing a person to be born before that person's parents is logically impossible.
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    • 1.Divine omnipotence, as articulated by Descartes, extends even to eternal truths and logical necessities, which God freely ordained.
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    • 2.If God created the laws of logic, God is not bound by them, making 'logical impossibility' an insufficient constraint on divine power.
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    • 1.The concept of 'parents' is indexically defined relative to a causal order that an omnipotent God could restructure entirely.
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    • 2.If God can reorder the causal structure of time itself, then the relational fact 'born before parents' may dissolve rather than persist as a genuine constraint.
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    Zeus’s power is limited in that he cannot do what it is logically impossible to do. He could not cause a person to be born before his parents (1.12.28–29), and he could not have made volition execute any choices but its own (1.1.23, 1.17.27). For the same kind of reason, he could not, for all his benevolence, cause a person’s body to be unimpeded in the way volition is unimpeded (4.1.100). Our bodies do not in fact belong to us, since we cannot always decide what will happen to them. There is th
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