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    (18) is not equivalent to (21) — Carmelics
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    (18) is not equivalent to (21)

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    • 1.Knowledge-that requires not merely storing true information but grasping the truth-making relation between proposition and fact, as Ryle's distinction between knowing-that and knowing-how implies.
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    • 2.Daniel's rote memorization lacks the inferential integration Sellars identifies as constitutive of genuine epistemic states, confirming (18) can hold without the cognitive grip (21) requires.
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    • 1.Belief ascriptions in (18) are transparent to the believer's perspective, while knowledge ascriptions in (21) impose an external success condition independent of the believer's epistemic position.
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    • 2.This asymmetry, recognized in Williamson's knowledge-first epistemology, entails (18) and (21) have distinct truth conditions across possible cases, making them non-equivalent by definition.
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    • 1.(18) would be true if Daniel had memorized his list of true propositions without realizing that they were true
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    • 2.(21) would not be true if Daniel had memorized his list of true propositions without realizing that they were true
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    but that (18) is not equivalent to (21), because—so the argument goes—(18) but not (21) would be true if Daniel had memorized his list of true propositions without realizing that they were true. Similar differences can be argued to apply, mutatis mutandis, to (19) and (20). Can the identity theorist deal with this difficulty?
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