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    A complete gift of self is problematic for temporal beings — Carmelics
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    A complete gift of self is problematic for temporal beings

    Forgiveness & MercyVirtue Ethics
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    • 1.Kierkegaard's 'repetition' shows temporal beings cannot recover identical commitment after disruption—each moment of selfhood is existentially unrepeatable.
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    • 2.Marcel's own distinction between 'being' and 'having' entails that the self one gifts is possessed, not constituted, making total self-donation a category error for temporal subjects.
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    • 3.A gift of self presupposes a stable self-identical donor, but Heraclitean flux and Parfitian reductionism jointly deny that temporal beings maintain the requisite diachronic unity.
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    • 1.Aristotle's account of philia in Nicomachean Ethics IX requires that genuine love tracks the beloved's current virtues, meaning any unconditional self-gift contradicts the rational structure of virtue-based attachment.
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    • 2.Bernard Williams' integrity argument establishes that total self-donation to another destroys the agent's ground projects, which are constitutive of personal identity over time.
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    • 1.Disponibilité requires an affective element, according to Marcel
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    • 2.Temporal beings are subject to the vicissitudes of time
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    • 3.The vicissitudes of time may alter a person's feelings or opinion of another
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    Marcel characterizes disponibilité as charity bound up with presence, as the gift of oneself. And therefore, at the extreme limit, disponibilité would consist in a total spiritual availability that would be pure charity, unconditional love and disposability. However, a problem arises here insofar as Marcel has insisted on an affective element in disponibilité. How is such a gift of self possible for temporal beings, persons for whom the vicissitudes of time may alter feelings or opinion of the o
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