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    It is not the case that A complete triumph over evil may be unfeasible for God no matter what divine actions are taken.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.An omnipotent God is not constrained by logical possibilities that derive merely from contingent features of created freedom.
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    • 2.Alvin Plantinga's own free will defense concedes God could create beings who always freely choose good, making universal salvation logically coherent.
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    • 3.If universal salvation is logically possible, then a perfectly good omnipotent God's failure to achieve it requires stronger justification than appeals to creaturely freedom.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Thomas Talbott argues that any rational agent with full knowledge of consequences would ultimately choose union with God over permanent separation.
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    • 2.If post-mortem corrective experience can bring rational agents to freely choose good, God's triumph over evil remains feasible without violating libertarian freedom.
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    • 3.The claim that fewer saved entails fewer damned commits a false dichotomy by ignoring universalist eschatologies where freedom and complete redemption are compatible.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Because of free will, history includes an element of irreducible tragedy.
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    • 2.If fewer people were damned to hell, then fewer people would have been saved as well.
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