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    Challenges→God would have a sure-fire way to shatter the illusions that make sinners' rebellion possible, even for the most tenacious sinners.

    A God who overrides persistent rational commitments—even confused ones—through guaranteed experiential coercion violates the dignity that grounds the moral order such a God is supposed to uphold.

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    • 1.Rational autonomy is constitutive of human dignity; bypassing it through coercion treats persons as means rather than ends.
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    • 2.A moral order grounded in divine authority loses coherence if its foundation violates the very dignity principles it prescribes.
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    • 3.Genuine moral commitment requires the real possibility of refusal; guaranteed experiential override eliminates this possibility.
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    • 1.Dignity may permit overriding false beliefs that distort one's actual rational commitments, not rational autonomy per se.
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    • 2.A God's authority to establish moral order need not derive from respecting pre-existing dignity constraints—it may constitute them.
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    • 3.Experiential correction of persistent confusion might restore authentic agency rather than violate it, if the person previously lacked clarity.
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    Key Terms

    Experiential coercion(as used in philosophy of religion and free will debates)
    Forcing someone to believe or act a certain way by making them directly experience something so overwhelming that they have no choice but to accept it.
    Override(as used in ethics)
    To set aside or ignore one thing in favor of something else that seems more important.
    Rational commitments(as used in epistemology and ethics)
    Beliefs or positions that someone has decided to hold based on reasoning and logic, rather than just gut feeling or habit.
    dignity(Schiller's aesthetic framework contrasting dignity with grace)
    The sensible expression of successfully willing to act in accordance with moral principles even at the cost of the suppression of conflicting desires and feelings, manifest in different aspects of appearance than grace.
    moral order(Adams's pragmatic moral argument for theism)
    The idea that achieving a balance of good over evil in the universe requires something more than human effort, yet human effort can add or detract from the total value of the universe

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