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    A nation's history and society, not abstract principles, ... — Carmelics
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    A nation's history and society, not abstract principles, determine the best apparatus of government.

    Democracy & GovernanceSocial Contract
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    • 1.Coleridgean 'Ideas' are located in organic historical institutions.
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    • 2.Those institutions embody their original purpose and meaning.
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    • 3.Abstract institutional blueprints fail to account for historically-formed preferences.
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    • 1.Rawls demonstrates that principles of justice derived from the 'original position' apply across societies regardless of particular historical contingencies.
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    • 2.If historically-contingent institutions have systematically oppressed minorities, appealing to that history to justify governance structures merely entrenches injustice.
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    • 3.Universal human capacities for reason and autonomy ground normative political claims more reliably than traditions shaped by arbitrary conquest and exclusion.
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    • 1.Habermas shows that legitimate governance requires procedures satisfying discourse ethics, which are grounded in communicative rationality, not inherited social facts.
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    • 2.Burke's organic historicism cannot distinguish between institutions that have endured because they are functional and those that have endured because dominant groups suppressed alternatives.
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    Conservatives reject the liberal’s concept of abstract, ahistorical and universal rights, derived from the nature of human agency and autonomy, and possessed even when unrecognised, for instance by slaves in Ancient Greece (on abstract rights, see for instance Gewirth 1983). For conservatives, a priori claims such as L.T. Hobhouse’s “The proper end of government is the uncovering of civil liberties”, are doubly mistaken (Hobhouse 1964 [1911]: 19); government does not have such ends, and “uncover
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