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    It is not the case that A solitary divine Person would lack glory.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Glory can consist in the perfect self-knowledge and self-appreciation of an infinitely perfect being, requiring no external recognizer.
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    • 2.Aristotle's God achieves the highest activity—self-directed contemplation—without any other mind conferring recognition upon it.
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    • 3.If divine self-knowledge is maximally perfect, the 'recognition' internal to that self-knowledge satisfies whatever glory requires.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.The analogy to fame conflates an epistemic-social concept (reputation among others) with an ontological one (the shining-forth of perfection).
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    • 2.In the Thomistic tradition, gloria Dei refers primarily to the manifestation of divine perfection in creation, not to inter-personal approval.
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    • 3.A solitary omniperfect being could manifest its perfections through free creation, thereby possessing glory in this ontologically prior sense.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.A divine Person must have not only splendor (exalted attributes) but also glory.
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    • 2.Glory is something at least akin to fame—a kind of recognition, approval, or appreciation conferred by another.
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    • 3.A solitary divine Person would have no other divine Person to confer glory upon it.
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