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    All heat and all movements present in us, insofar as they do not depend on thought, belong solely to the body.

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    • 1.Anything we experience as being in us that can also exist in wholly inanimate bodies must be attributed only to the body.
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    • 2.Inanimate bodies can move in as many different ways as human bodies, if not more, and have as much heat or more.
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    • 1.Affective states like pain and pleasure involve both phenomenal character and bodily heat/movement, making clean separation of body and thought impossible.
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    • 2.Descartes himself acknowledges in the Sixth Meditation that the union of mind and body produces sensations irreducible to either substance alone.
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    • 3.If heat accompanying emotions like fear is causally entangled with intentional states, attributing it solely to body misrepresents its explanatory origin.
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    • 1.Malebranche and later occasionalists argued that no bodily motion is causally self-sufficient, undermining the premise that body alone explains its own movements.
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    • 2.If body cannot be the genuine efficient cause of its own heat and motion without divine concurrence, the dichotomy between thought-dependent and body-only processes collapses.
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    Descartes’ criterion for determining whether a function belongs to the body or soul was as follows: “anything we experience as being in us, and which we see can also exist in wholly inanimate bodies, must be attributed only to our body. On the other hand, anything in us which we cannot conceive in any way as capable of belonging to a body must be attributed to our soul. Thus, because we have no conception of the body as thinking in any way at all, we have reason to believe that every kind of tho
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