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    It is not the case that All heat and all movements present in us, insofar as they do not depend on thought, belong solely to the body.

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    • 1.Affective states like pain and pleasure involve both phenomenal character and bodily heat/movement, making clean separation of body and thought impossible.
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    • 2.Descartes himself acknowledges in the Sixth Meditation that the union of mind and body produces sensations irreducible to either substance alone.
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    • 3.If heat accompanying emotions like fear is causally entangled with intentional states, attributing it solely to body misrepresents its explanatory origin.
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    • 1.Malebranche and later occasionalists argued that no bodily motion is causally self-sufficient, undermining the premise that body alone explains its own movements.
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    • 2.If body cannot be the genuine efficient cause of its own heat and motion without divine concurrence, the dichotomy between thought-dependent and body-only processes collapses.
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    • 1.Anything we experience as being in us that can also exist in wholly inanimate bodies must be attributed only to the body.
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    • 2.Inanimate bodies can move in as many different ways as human bodies, if not more, and have as much heat or more.
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