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    Annihilation eliminates the subject of punishment entirel... — Carmelics
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    Supports→God threatens sensible misery, not annihilation

    Annihilation eliminates the subject of punishment entirely, thus failing the retributive condition that the wrongdoer themselves bear the consequence of their acts.

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    • 1.Retribution requires a conscious subject to experience suffering as deserved consequence; death eliminates consciousness entirely.
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    • 2.If the wrongdoer ceases to exist, no being exists to whom consequences can be attributed, making punishment logically impossible.
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    • 3.Retributive justice demands proportional harm to the guilty party; annihilation prevents any proportionality assessment.
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    • 1.Retribution may focus on the act's condemnation rather than the perpetrator's experience, making annihilation sufficient expression.
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    • 2.A wrongdoer forced to forfeit their existence bears the ultimate consequence; this satisfies retributive demands regardless of consciousness.
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    • 3.If retribution requires the subject's awareness of punishment, life imprisonment also fails—yet most retributivists accept it as legitimate.
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