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    Aristocracies are likely to be more absolute than monarchies — Carmelics
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    Aristocracies are likely to be more absolute than monarchies

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    • 1.There are generally more checks on authority in aristocracies than in monarchies
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    • 2.There is a greater diffusion of political power in aristocracies than in monarchies
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    • 3.A state is 'absolute' to the extent that it incorporates the rights of all its members and minimizes the basis for dissent
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    • 1.Aristocracies concentrate power among a faction with shared class interests, creating oligarchic solidarity that resists external accountability.
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    • 2.Montesquieu and Madison argued that divided sovereign power requires rival factions, which aristocracies suppress by unifying elites against commoners.
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    • 3.A ruling class that excludes the majority from political participation faces less internal pressure to moderate its authority than a monarch facing noble opposition.
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    • 1.Hobbes demonstrated that individual sovereigns face personal mortality constraints that force succession crises, creating structural limits on perpetual absolutism.
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    • 2.Aristocratic councils persist indefinitely as institutions, eliminating the succession vulnerabilities that historically curtailed monarchical overreach.
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    Given that there will generally be more checks on authority and a greater diffusion of political power in aristocracies than in monarchies, we should not find it surprising that Spinoza claims that aristocracies are likely to be more absolute than monarchies (8/7), since a state is “absolute” to the extent that it incorporates the rights of all its members and minimizes the basis for dissent (8/3, 8/4, 8/7; Steinberg 2018b). Absoluteness thus indicates a norm very much like peace, the cardinal
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