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    Consciousness is an autopoietic system — a self-creating and self-organizing system.

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    • 1.Each moment-to-moment sequence of experience grows coherently out of preceding experiences.
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    • 2.Each sequence is constrained and enabled by the global structure of links and limits embodied in its underlying prior organization.
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    • 3.Whether partly in response to outer influences or entirely from within, this coherent growth occurs.
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    • 1.Autopoietic systems, as defined by Maturana and Varela, are operationally closed material systems that produce their own components.
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    • 2.Consciousness lacks the material self-production of components that defines autopoiesis — it does not synthesize its own neural substrate.
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    • 3.Applying 'autopoietic' to consciousness conflates the biological process with a mere metaphor, committing a category error Maturana himself warned against.
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    • 1.Hume's bundle theory and Parfit's reductionism establish that conscious experience lacks a persistent self-organizing subject to anchor continuity.
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    • 2.If there is no enduring organizational locus, the 'coherent growth' in the supporting argument is better explained by neural causation than self-creation.
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    • 3.Attributing self-organization to consciousness smuggles in a Cartesian subject that deflationary accounts of personal identity have already undermined.
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    Whether partly in response to outer influences or entirely from within, each moment to moment sequence of experience grows coherently out of those that preceded it, constrained and enabled by the global structure of links and limits embodied in its underlying prior organization (Husserl 1913). In that respect, consciousness is an autopoietic system, i.e., a self-creating and self-organizing system (Varela and Maturana 1980).
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