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    It is not the case that Corporeal substance and spatial extension are identical in nature for Descartes

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.Descartes distinguishes internal place (the body itself) from external place (surrounding surfaces), implying space and body are conceptually separable (Pr II 13-15).
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    • 2.If corporeal substance and extension were strictly identical, the notion of 'empty space' would be not merely false but conceptually incoherent, yet Descartes argues against the void on physical grounds, not purely definitional ones.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Descartes attributes modes like shape, motion, and divisibility to body but treats these as modifications of extension, suggesting body has a richer ontological profile than bare spatial extension.
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    • 2.Arnauld and later Leibniz pressed that identity of nature requires intersubstitutability in all contexts, but Descartes treats corporeal substance as a substance-bearer while extension functions as an attribute, violating strict identity.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.The same extension that constitutes the nature of body also constitutes the nature of space (Pr II 11)
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    • 2.Body and space differ only as an individual differs from its genus or species
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