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    Supports→Judith 16:17 supports ECT

    Demetrius Trakatellis and other patristic scholars note that deuterocanonical texts like Judith shaped early Christian eschatology, lending them evidential weight.

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    • 1.Patristic writers cited deuterocanonical texts extensively, suggesting they influenced doctrinal development regardless of later canonicity decisions.
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    • 2.Judith's themes of divine providence and eschatological hope appear in early Christian writings, indicating genuine theological influence on communities.
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    • 3.Historical influence on a tradition's formation is distinct from and can coexist with questions about scriptural authority or canonicity.
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    • 1.Influence on early thought doesn't establish textual authority; many non-canonical sources shaped Christian ideas without gaining canonical status.
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    • 2.Patristic citation patterns varied by region and theologian; selective examples don't demonstrate Judith's systematic role in eschatology formation.
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    • 3.Using scholarly consensus on influence as 'evidential weight' for canonicity conflates historical causation with normative theological validation.
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