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    It is not the case that Direct empirical encounter with a divine emissary — including revealed law and beneficial commandments — provides sufficient grounds to acknowledge God's existence, authority, and dominion.

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    • 1.Empirical encounter with a claimant to divine authority underdetermines the source: natural, demonic, or human deception remain equally consistent with the evidence.
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    • 2.Hume's argument in 'Of Miracles' establishes that testimony for miraculous events always faces a prior probability deficit that phenomenological vividness cannot overcome.
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    • 3.The Indian king analogy fails because earthly diplomatic credentials are verifiable through independent channels, whereas divine credentials have no analogous external verification procedure.
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    • 1.Kant's Critique of Pure Reason demonstrates that causal inference from empirical phenomena to a transcendent, non-phenomenal being exceeds the legitimate bounds of theoretical reason.
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    • 2.Even if a revealed law produces measurable beneficial effects, this establishes only the law's prudential utility, not the metaphysical authority or existence of its divine legislator.
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    • 1.In the second hypothetical case, the Khazar king is prepared to acknowledge the king of India's existence based on empirical evidence presented to him.
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    • 2.The diplomatic mission creates a sense of indebtedness and obligation that lays the groundwork for a special relationship.
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    • 3.The messenger (angel or prophet), the signed letter (revealed Law), and medicinal gifts (divine commandments) constitute direct empirical evidence equivalent to uninterrupted tradition.
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