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Essence and existence do not enter into real composition ... — Carmelics

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Essence and existence do not enter into real composition with one another, and to the extent that something enjoys essential being, to that same degree it enjoys actual existence.

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1.Essence and existence are really identical and differ only conceptually.
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2.What is understood of essence is also understood of existence, and vice versa.
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1.Existence is not contained in the concept of any finite essence, since we can fully grasp what a thing is without knowing whether it exists.
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2.If essence and existence were identical, the existence of any essence would be analytically necessary, collapsing the distinction between contingent and necessary beings.
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1.Aquinas's real distinction holds that in all creatures, esse is received and limited by essence as act is limited by potency, grounding genuine ontological composition.
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2.Godfrey's collapse of this distinction cannot account for why finite beings fail to exhaust the fullness of being, since an unreceived esse would be unlimited and identical with God's own act of existing.
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Godfrey briefly refers to this issue in Quodlibet II, q. 2, while attempting to determine whether the essence of a creature is indifferent to existence and nonexistence. He comments that either essence is really identical with existence and differs from it (1) only conceptually or (2) intentionally, or else (3) existence is a distinct thing, i.e., the act of the essence and really distinct from it (PB 2.60). In Quodlibet IV, q. 2, he was asked to determine whether to hold that predicamental thin

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