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    It is not the case that Essential property instances of God are not more dependent on God than God is on them.

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    • 1.Mutual existential dependence between two entities does not entail ontological equality between them.
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    • 2.God's essential properties depend on God for their instantiation, but God's existence does not depend on any property instance for its ground.
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    • 3.Asymmetric ontological priority can obtain even when co-destruction follows necessarily, as Aristotle's substance-accident relation demonstrates.
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    • 1.Kit Fine's distinction between generic and consequential essence shows that mutual entailment does not collapse into mutual essence-dependence.
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    • 2.Even if God cannot exist without omniscience, it does not follow that omniscience is not ontologically posterior to God in the order of real definition.
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    • 1.All of God's properties are essential: God is essentially omniscient, omnipotent, etc.
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    • 2.Should either God or the omniscience of God cease to be, the other would also cease to be.
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    • 3.The dependence objection holds for accidental property instances but not for essential property instances (e.g., Socrates may lose his wisdom but cannot lose his humanity).
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