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    It is not the case that Even if God's creative will grounds my act of deciding, the decision remains mine and not God's.

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    • 1.If God's creative will is the sufficient ground for my deciding, then my deciding adds no causal contribution not already determined by God's act.
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    • 2.An act that requires no causal contribution from the agent to occur is not genuinely the agent's act in any robust sense.
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    • 3.Therefore, grounding my decision entirely in God's creative will undermines, rather than preserves, the ownership of the decision by me.
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    • 1.Argument P3 assumes that predication of an act to an agent is sufficient for that act to belong to that agent, but predication tracks metaphysical dependence, not origination.
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    • 2.Luther and theological determinists like Schleiermacher held that an act can be genuinely predicated of a creature while God remains its sole sufficient originating cause.
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    • 3.If predication is compatible with God being the sole sufficient cause, then P3 fails to establish that the decision is not ultimately God's in the morally relevant sense.
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    • 1.Even if my act of deciding has its existence grounded in God's creatively willing that I so decide, it is still I who act and I who decide.
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    • 2.God's willing that I decide as I do does not make my decision God's.
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    • 3.If my decision were predicated of God rather than me, God's will would fail to achieve its object.
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