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    Free moral choice in the noumenal realm must nonetheless ... — Carmelics
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    Free moral choice in the noumenal realm must nonetheless be capable of transforming the natural phenomenal world into a moral world.

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    • 1.The moral law imposes ends upon rational agents that must be realizable.
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    • 2.For those ends to be realizable, moral agency must be able to produce real effects within the phenomenal world.
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    • 3.Therefore noumenal freedom must be efficacious within phenomenal nature.
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    • 1.Causal efficacy in the phenomenal world requires integration into the deterministic causal chain governed by natural law (Hume, Second Analogy).
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    • 2.A noumenal cause operating outside time and natural law cannot serve as a sufficient condition for any specific phenomenal effect without violating causal determinism.
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    • 3.Therefore, positing noumenal freedom as causally efficacious in the phenomenal world generates an incoherence Kant's own first Critique prohibits.
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    • 1.The 'ought implies can' principle only establishes that moral ends must be possible, not that a noumenal agent must be the proximate cause of their realization.
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    • 2.Kant's own postulate of the highest good relocates the convergence of virtue and nature to a transcendent divine ordering, not direct noumenal-to-phenomenal causation.
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    • 3.Therefore the supporting argument conflates the practical necessity of moral realizability with a metaphysical claim about noumenal causal efficacy that exceeds what practical reason warrants.
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    The problem that has apparently not been solved by the earlier two critiques is that of showing that our choice to act in accordance with the moral law, as the fundamental principle of all laws of freedom, a choice that can be free only if it is conceived of as taking place in a “supersensible” or noumenal realm that is not governed by the deterministic laws of “sensible” or phenomenal nature, where every event is fully determined by chains of causality extending far back beyond any particular c
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