Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    Home/Original/inverse
    See Original
    Inverse View

    It is not the case that God-as-knower is not numerically the same as God-as-known.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

    Reasons For

    2 perspectives
    Reason for 1 of 2
    ?
    • 1.In perfect self-knowledge, the knower and known are identical: the intellect in act is the intelligible in act (Aristotle, De Anima III.4).
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Divine intellection is maximally actual and perfect, admitting no real distinction between subject and object of thought.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.If God-as-knower and God-as-known were numerically distinct, God's self-knowledge would be imperfect, contradicting divine simplicity.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reason for 2 of 2
    ?
    • 1.Asymmetry in a relation does not entail numerical distinctness of the relata, as a thing can stand in an asymmetric relation to itself (e.g., self-causation in Spinoza).
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.The supporting argument illicitly infers ontological distinction from logical or grammatical distinction in how we describe a single entity.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reasons Against

    1 perspective
    Reason against
    ?
    • There is an essential asymmetry in the knowing relation.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.