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    It is not the case that Honesty requires truthfulness in thought and speech.

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    • 1.Bernard Williams distinguishes sincerity (not asserting what one disbelieves) from accuracy (caring whether beliefs are true), showing truthfulness is not unified.
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    • 2.Honesty may require accuracy in inquiry without requiring full disclosure in speech, making the claim's conjunction of thought and speech overly strong.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Kant's doctrine of lying to murderers and Korsgaard's reflective endorsement model show that honesty norms are grounded in respect for rational agency, not metaphysical anti-faking.
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    • 2.If honesty is grounded in respect for persons rather than facts about existence, truthfulness in speech admits of justified exceptions that Rand's formulation categorically forecloses.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Honesty is the recognition of the fact that one cannot fake existence.
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    • 2.This recognition is expressed in truthfulness in thought and speech.
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