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    Challenges→The future is necessary ex suppositione (conditionally necessary), though not absolutely necessary

    If God's knowledge is truly immutable, then the proposition 'God could have known otherwise' entails a change in the divine nature, which is impossible.

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    • 1.Immutability means no actual change occurs in God's nature or properties at any time or in any respect.
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    • 2.If God could have known otherwise, this requires God's knowledge to differ from what it actually is.
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    • 3.A difference in what God knows constitutes a change in divine nature, making immutability impossible.
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    • 1.Modal facts about what God could know are timelessly true, not changes occurring within God's nature.
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    • 2.Immutability concerns God's actual properties, not counterfactual possibilities that never actualize.
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    • 3.God's eternal knowledge of all possibilities includes knowing what else could have been true without divine change.
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    knowledge(Distinguished from mere true belief, which may be the product of indoctrination and need not exercise deliberative capacities.)
    Justified true belief — true belief that has been arrived at through the exercise of deliberative capacities, including comparison of and deliberation among alternatives.

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    A difference in what God knows constitutes a change in divine nature, making imm...God's eternal knowledge of all possibilities includes knowing what else could ha...If God could have known otherwise, this requires God's knowledge to differ from ...Immutability concerns God's actual properties, not counterfactual possibilities ...
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