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    If guilt cannot be infinite, then finite suffering or cor... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Either the sinner does not pay for the sin at all, or the sinner must pay for it by enduring everlasting suffering (or at least a permanent loss of happiness).

    If guilt cannot be infinite, then finite suffering or corrective purgation can achieve full satisfaction, making everlasting torment disproportionate rather than required.

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    • 1.Proportionality is a fundamental principle of justice: punishment must be commensurate with the offense committed.
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    • 2.If guilt has limits (finite), then the suffering required to satisfy justice must also be finite and achievable.
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    • 3.Infinite punishment for finite transgression violates basic rational standards of moral accountability and fairness.
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    • 1.Guilt may not be purely quantitative; offense against an infinite being could generate infinite moral weight regardless of finite act.
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    • 2.Corrective suffering and retributive satisfaction may operate on different moral logic; one doesn't necessarily replace the other.
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    • 3.The claim assumes finite corrective measures can discharge all moral obligations, but some consequences may be irreversible or absolute.
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