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    It is not the case that If one chooses to live, one must value one's own long-term survival as an ultimate end and morality as a necessary means to that end.

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    • 1.Parfit's reductionist view of personal identity entails that 'long-term survival of oneself' is not a coherent ultimate end, since future selves are not strictly identical to present ones.
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    • 2.If the entity whose survival is valued changes substantially over time, rational self-interest cannot ground a unified ultimate end across a lifetime.
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    • 1.Aristotle's eudaimonia requires flourishing defined by function and virtue, not survival per se—meaning morality aims at living well, not merely living long.
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    • 2.Rand's conflation of survival with flourishing smuggles in a richer normative standard than biological persistence without justifying the substitution.
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    • 1.Morality is based on a hypothetical imperative conditioned on the choice to live.
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    • 2.There is no duty to survive; survival is a chosen ultimate end.
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    • 3.Choosing to live commits one to valuing the conditions necessary for long-term survival.
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