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    If the non-damned could become just as thankful through r... — Carmelics
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    If the non-damned could become just as thankful through restoration, God could cause the same good by causing less pain

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    • 1.Gratitude can arise from relief of suffering without requiring the suffering itself to have occurred.
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    • 2.An omnipotent being has no constraint preventing it from achieving identical goods through less harmful means.
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    • 3.Causing unnecessary pain when alternatives exist violates basic principles of benevolence.
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    • 1.Gratitude born from restored relationship may be qualitatively deeper than gratitude from hypothetical relief never experienced.
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    • 2.We cannot assess whether restorative grace without preceding suffering produces identical spiritual transformation in recipients.
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    • 3.The claim assumes 'just as thankful' is knowable, but comparative phenomenology of gratitude across different causal histories is epistemically opaque.
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