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    If the non-damned could become just as thankful through annihilation, God could cause the same good by causing less pain

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    • 1.Gratitude requires only a comparative awareness of relief from non-existence; annihilation provides this without ongoing suffering.
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    • 2.An omnipotent being can achieve any good outcome through multiple means; choosing the path with less suffering is morally superior.
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    • 3.The existence of actual pain in our world suggests God permits suffering beyond what's necessary for gratitude or spiritual goods.
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    • 1.Annihilation may not produce gratitude at all—non-existent beings cannot experience anything, including thankfulness, by definition.
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    • 2.Gratitude arising from conscious existence and growth through adversity may be categorically different from (and superior to) non-existence.
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    • 3.We cannot know whether God's actual creation maximizes total good; our intuitions about efficiency across metaphysical domains are unreliable.
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