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    If tossing the coin and preventing the toss are both treated as purely physical events, there is a high correlation between these physical events and Houdini's earlier behavior

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    • 1.Houdini's prediction or lack of prediction can be treated as purely physical events, independent of semantic content
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    • 2.Tossing the coin and preventing the toss can likewise be treated as purely physical events
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    • 3.Physical events that are highly correlated may stand in causal relations
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    • 1.Correlation between physical events is insufficient for causation without an appropriate causal mechanism connecting them.
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    • 2.In retrocausal cases, no forward-directed mechanism links Houdini's earlier behavior to the later coin toss, violating standard process theories of causation.
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    • 3.Salmon and Dowe's conserved quantity accounts require causal processes to transmit physical quantities continuously through time, which retrocausation cannot satisfy.
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    • 1.Stripping semantic content from Houdini's prediction eliminates the very intentional structure that makes the correlation between prediction and outcome non-accidental.
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    • 2.Davidson's anomalous monism establishes that mental events qua mental cannot be subsumed under strict physical laws, so a purely physical redescription loses the explanatory content that underwrites the correlation.
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    However, one might suggest that a possible reply to Black’s bilking argument is to say that both tossing the coin and preventing the toss may backwardly cause Houdini’s behavior. That the preclusion of the coin from being tossed may be a cause of Houdini’s response has also been proposed by Brian Garrett (2020). But he argues, in contrast to the scenarios described below, that the lack of flipping the coin may be the direct cause of the Houdini’s earlier prediction (because of backward causal pr
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